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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:09:00 -
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For all those victims of piracy I have this advice. Following this plan will work only if a united front is formed.
1. Stop paying ransoms.
The pirate exists partly by getting players to give them money to they aren't pk'ed. So, eliminate that form of money and pirates suffer.
2. Stop paying for protection.
Players who pay bullies for protections will never achieve their full worth unless they stand up to pirates. I'm not talking about hiring players, but about players who intimidate to get money.
3. Fight all pirates everywhere to take back the space you have live in. It's your home, don't let someone run you out.
4. United front.
If all non pirates allied together to hunt pirates down and destroy them than less pirates would be around because they would fear us. Group together and help each other out.
Yes, piracy adds an element needed for this game, but this game seems controlled by the pirates. Let's take it back. Use local to warn others of pirates, get together and go to the gatecampers, ore thieves, etc. and show them who rules who. But some might say that the pirates are powerful. Yes they are. But who makes the most money? We do. Why do they pirate us? So they can make money. Stop making it easy for the pirates. Stop rolling over. Stand up and fight. Keep your hard earned money for yourself. But divided we fall, united we stand. Some of us make a stand, but until all do, we will always fight a pitched battle. Let's stand up for ourselves and do what is needed.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:45:00 -
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Did I rattle some cages? I appreciate the element piracy adds. However, I am anti-pirate. I live to make pirates go boom. I want to help people. I am not alone. I will destroy any pirate I can without quarter. Now, this a is GAME. I love this game. I realize the references made of my quitting affirms the thought that pirates are experiencing a feeling they will feel again. Fear. Not just me, but others will do what's right. To all pirates, it's not too late to change your ways.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:52:00 -
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lol
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 20:59:00 -
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Stopping piracy can be done by long term players, and noobs alike. Noobs, start using sensors before you jump in to low sec, any ships you see not moving by the gate are, yup, pirates. So, don't give them an easy 50K. Go around. So, you are in an asteroid field, hear comes an ore thief, leet him take your stuf, go to the station nearest(where your fighter is) and go back and wreak vengeance and discipline. HAve a buddy near to defend you if you can. The best thing. And whatever you do, DON'T jettison a canister and fill it. Buy a locked container. These steps will greatly help in prevention and destruction of piracy/ore thieves.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:01:00 -
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I realize this game is all some of us have in the world. Some take this game way, way to seriously. Stop the elf in you and relax.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:18:00 -
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I have blown up alot of pirates. Let me explain. I warp in to a low sec space astoriod belt. There they sit. 3 big bad pirates just waiting to get owned by me. I see them first and let loose the big dogs. Here they come. They are unleashing all they have. Not good enough. Not with me. After lock # 2 and # 3 I start firing and they take my shields. My shields for # 2 is okay with me. I trade half armour for # 3 and once again, I'm top dog. I don't know who the Guristas Corp are but they aren't very good. Oh, and # 1 died in the first barrage. lol. Just kidding. :)
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:11:00 -
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I fully plan on equipping me ship to the fullest. All noobs listen, when you fight pirates, mostly they are pretty hard to defeat. Putting the goos, expensive stuf on your ships will improve your odds, but will also suck worse if you die. Big IF. So, Risk vs reward. But don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Better safe than sorry. For the brave lone wolf types, scan, scan, scan. And mark a safe spot. Get to it when traveling in low sec. Then scan. Once safe, proceed. However, if pirates are heading your way or unidentified ships coming your way, warp out. Don't trust anyone. Watch local for people. The overview isn't very reliable.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:21:00 -
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Never been proven. Never will be.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:34:00 -
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My typing is really an issue? I mean, can you reply to something I have said? Well, how about, " I am SO Sorry my typing isn't up to par with your skills. Please forgive my hasty hands and overlook my typing erros and grammar malfuntions". Better? And I agree with you T.M. but I hope some aren't like what you described. Yet, I believe most are. So, now you know my goal. To wake up the indulstrialists and others who choose not to stand up for what they have. As I said before, piracy has it's place. Like all things in the game. But players should stand up for themselves and not be bullied.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:23:00 -
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I was wondering when the sheep would talk. For all you noobs, being a pirate doesn't make you a better pvper. Being a pirate only means you take what isn't yours and you try to steal from others. And pirates gang up anf gank people. So, who really are the best pvpes? Not most pirates. Unless in a group. lol. Even questionable there.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:26:00 -
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Not even close.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 02:01:00 -
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I don't use an alt. I am not scared of pirates hunting me down. I really don't care. That's what pirate killing is about. Getting pirates all worked up makes me laugh. YEs, I am having a good time with theses threads. But, their is a purpose. To show pirates not everyone is afraid of them, that they will be hunted, what noobs can do to avoid them, or fight them, and the whole basis of the game, to have fun. Or have some forgot? Now, my mission is to make high and low sec safer. To destroy pirates asap. I do understand the need for them. Everyone has a role. I know mine. I'm sure I will be seeing a lot of pirates soon and ongoing as I play and get better. I can't wait. That's my joy in the game. Do pirates have more fun thean me? No. Do I have more fun than pirates? No. I enjoy my role in this game. As do pirates. So, see ya soon.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 03:09:00 -
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That's all you could come up with? All your bravado and you say that?.lol. continually.:)
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 12:57:00 -
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Not every battle will be won, but then just get more players to come and help out. Very good point however.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:15:00 -
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lol.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:57:00 -
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Maybe, just maybe I have attacked pirates with high sec ratings and lowered mine. Obviously some people don't understand that. But hey, we are all noobs to some degree.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:58:00 -
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And the real issue is to stop kowtowing to pirates because they ahve no right to bully. Want protection? Hire some. Don't let people con you into beinga weakling. Stand up for yourselves. Besides, it would really make eve intersting.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 17:22:00 -
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That is a very good question" What is the difference of pirate and antipirates?" So this is my def:
Pirate: One who takes what isn't his/hers and makes a living off of it.
Anti-pirate: One who doesn't. However, hitting pirates and thieves is okay because it's justice.
I know everone had an opinion of the definition. However, this is mine.
Wars are different. I will now explain further.
In society there are a set rules governing how one interacts with each other. Basic human respect regarding ones property and life. When some begin violating the rules and laws of society, others rise up to keep the peace and to wreak justice and vengence upon the transgressors. Hence, pirates, anti-pirates. In the society of eve the unjust are rising to a level unheard of before so justice must be dealt out with an iron hand. Some must rise and put down the unjust. And, sadly, sometimes that isn't enough. So the weak must become strong to stop the onslaught of the wicked.
Each have their roles to play, our is to make pirates pay.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 17:27:00 -
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lol. And I fear no pirate. When I undock, I usually go hunting. But hey, keep telling yourselves I stay docked. If it helps you sleep at night. :)
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:00:00 -
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You bring the milk, I'll bring the cookies. :)
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:25:00 -
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Excellent point. But, did the local corp make an effort to claim the system?
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:46:00 -
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D.S, from the things you have said, yes, you are a pirate. :)
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 19:48:00 -
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All in due time. Why rush pirates going boom?
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 20:06:00 -
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No, from you bragging about killing noobs, gatecamping, etc. makes you a pirate.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 20:27:00 -
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The D you would escape unharmed until I knew better. And that is an issue with pirate hunting. But, it makes the game more fun.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.12 22:16:00 -
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I believe that if players banded together we could make a difference. Will it happen? I don't know. But if it did than the scenario would be much different than most would believe. All I can do is try and see what happens. Regardless, I will have alot of fun fighting pirates. And I will ne starting my own corp soon all can come and join and hunt pirates. Regarding bounties, tricky topic to discuss. However, if people research enough they can find all the info needed to know. I play eve my way, others play it their way. The goal is having fun. And I do and will. For some fun is watching pirates go boom. For others it's the bully players going boom. Me, I like both just fine.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.13 17:07:00 -
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At what?
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.13 19:19:00 -
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Good point.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.13 19:51:00 -
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LOL.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.13 20:32:00 -
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I really don't want to know what you do when you are alone, underwear and all. Pirates have their place. Just not everywhere you go.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.13 20:56:00 -
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See above responses for underwear issue. I have seen pirates all over the place. I have other posts with my understandings of most pirates. Yes, there are pirates out there who do a good job of pirating. No bullying noobs, and such. No bragging about how wonderful they are ganking noobs. I respect them. I don't agree with them on pirating but I believe eve would suck with out them. But as I travel around in space I see many pirates who do "pirating" but really cause more problems. But hey, it's a game.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.13 22:34:00 -
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You know, you have a good point. I will re-evaluate the situation. Perhaps you are right. However, non pirates sticking together still is a good tool to combat pirates.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.14 12:49:00 -
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.14 17:00:00 -
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Very true D. I agree completely. And that is one of the main things I have been trying to say. Since the game won't change, the way to solve the problem is to band together and fight. Make pirates run from us. And they will. Adn the ones that don't, hey, I always did love a good fight.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.14 19:05:00 -
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There are more than you think.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.14 20:38:00 -
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Need I say more? But hey, I love blowing dhips up too. And since the pirates are so plentiful, here's to good hunting.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.15 03:12:00 -
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Lol.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.15 18:05:00 -
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I agree about the usefulness in pirates for eve, but I will never pay a ransom. Ever. It's the priciple of the whole thing.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.16 13:35:00 -
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Pirates do bring us closer, so for that I say, thanks pirates. I usually do good avoiding pirates, but it seems a huge percent of people think they can do it without ever being caught by pirates. I believe at some time you will be jumped by pirates. But that's what makes the game. My suggestion of noobs, miners, etc getting together would make pirates start ataying away from the systems were they won't get paid. Take a stand. As for ransoms, I will always encourage not paying. Not because you save money, but because you waste it. If they know you'll pay, they will always get you. Whay find a mark who might not pay when there you are? Will you alwways make more money not paying? No, but in the long term you will save money because you won't be easy to scare.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.16 16:07:00 -
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Camps may be easier to avoid, but traps still gank alot. Hence, show of force and retribution.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.16 18:39:00 -
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Being a pirate doesn't mean you are a good pvper. It only means you most likey aren't very skilled solo or in an equal fight. Some are, most aren't compared to non pirates fighting all the pirates outmatched usually.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.16 19:36:00 -
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You are missing the point. I didn't say all pirates aren't very good. Just most compared to non pirates. I believe there are outstanding pvp pirates. Just not in the quantity of non pirates. Are some of the best mercs? Yes. Pirates? Yes. Bounty hunters? Yes. Etc. But on sheer numbers, alot of non pirates are good just from fighting out numbered. Now, I really respect the fact someone can hold their own vs high odds. Good job. I was faced with a situation where I was ratting with some buddies and a crazy guy warps in and starts fighting. Good fight. Took out 3 of us before he left. I was blown up first. Really impressive.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.16 20:51:00 -
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Well, I see what you are saying, and you are right. But piracy is about profit. Kill the profit, kill the pirates. The it will be pvp with no piracy.(please remember this is a game and I am a pirate killer who wants to help other players with what I have learned).
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.16 22:13:00 -
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Oaky, and it's about the booms! Just make it theirs!
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:12:00 -
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Piracy isn't comfined to low/no sec. Maybe you didn't know that. And piracy needs to be in this game. My goal is to help make eve a safer place for non pirates. Hey, it's how I like to play. Pirate killing is what I like to do. It's how I play the game. Everyone plays it their way. Cool. I play it mine others play it whatever way they want. Alot of my issues deals with noob killing and bragging about being "tough". And as I have said many times, not all pirates are weak 1vs1 fighters. Just most. And yes, I believe there are way too many pirates in high/low sec.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 14:25:00 -
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Lol.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 17:08:00 -
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You'll find out
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:29:00 -
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lol
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 19:18:00 -
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Well, you didn't search good enough. That isn't my issue. I was ganked by klepto in rancer. But, even at that, why can't I give the info I learned to help other players? Just because I am not ganked much doesn't mean I don't have a right to voice what I feel needs to be said. Also, what's wrong with sending an alt scouting? Nothing. Rancer is rumored to be very tough to get through. So are 0.0 space areas. I'm not stupid. Besides, who says it was my alt?
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:35:00 -
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I look forward to meeting you. I love a good fight. And hey, I can do what I can to help others. It has taken me a while of learning and reseraching to form my opinion. But in all honesty I could be wrong. And I don't mind the target on myself. I didn't start playing eve to run from a fight. I welcome it. Win or lose I still enjoy a goo dbattle. of course victory is sweet
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.17 21:42:00 -
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Lol
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.18 13:29:00 -
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Good story. Had a good laugh. But it seems some people don't read the other posts. I said pirates have their place and eve wouldn't be eve w/o them. Now, I won't go into detail because I am sick of having to hold people's hand and explain my rationale. Oh, is that to big of a word? Too bad. Use a dictionary. As to pirates coming my way, not worried. I love eve for it. I am the hunter and teh hunted. And I don't believe an anti pirate is a pirate. And I do have a good laugh at the posts.
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